Iron Man 2 Jon Favreau
Like most people who bother to write thousands of words about other people's creations, I get a kick out of tearing down the hard work of others. Even so, unless we’re talking about Scarlett Johansson’s acting, there’s not a single bad word to be said about Iron Man 2 that holds so much as a single ounce of water.
The fact that it’s currently hovering only around a respectable 70% on Rotten Tomatoes is a travesty, an oversight of both justice and self-flagellating film/comic geeks who couldn’t live with themselves if they swallowed their nerdrage for more than a second. Here’s the deal, Jack: As a whole, Iron Man 2 is better than Iron Man. No, it’s not “as fresh,” as you might have heard echoed across the Internet from those self-styled mouthbreathers who fail to recognize that this is a sequel, so by its very definition, it is “less fresh,” where we mean fresh as in new, not fresh as in “the critic who pissed, moaned, and nitpicked about Iron Man 2 is less fresh today because he has a borderline religious aversion towards deodorant, which is unfortunate, because homefry weighs about 400 pounds on a good day, and that produces a lot of rank body odor which will prove difficult to remove from the walls in his mother’s basement, where he resides.”
But why is Iron Man 2 better? Let’s explore that. For starters, you have the single most amazing collection of actors ever assembled for a superhero film. Yes, that includes Nolan’s Batman thing. Heath Ledger was great, and Aaron Eckhart isn’t bad even when he’s spouting off dialogue that seems like it was taken from a dumbed down cop movie from the Reagan era (THE CITY WILL BE SAFE AGAIN! THE NIGHT IS DARKEST BEFORE THE DAWN! LAW AND ORDER! BLARGH BLARGH BLEARHGH), but per capita, the amount of greatness on display in Iron Man 2 is enough to make you think you’re watching an honest to god film, and not a “comic book movie.” In a single film—a single film!—we’ve got Robert Downey Jr., Mickey Rourke, Sam Rockwell, Sam Jackson, Gwyneth Paltrow, Don Chedle, and…wait for it… motherf*cking Garry Shandling.
Seriously. Larry Sanders up in this piece, as a sleazeball U.S. Senator, no less. Does it get any better than that? I submit that it does not. Iron Man 2 does that thing that chick fluff like Love, Actually, et al., does where they get a cast strong enough for not one, but two Oscar-winning Holocaust movies, and sticks them all into a script bad enough that, were it a dude and not a collection of dead trees, it could rescue the President.
Except that Iron Man 2’s script is actually good! In fact, it’s great! With superhero movies, there are two inherent mortal dangers:
1. You drop the ball completely and end up with garbage like Elektra and Catwoman.
2. You do a decent job with the first one but slowly suck the fun out of things for a “deeper” story that mistakes “deep” for “head lodged firmly up the ass.”
Iron Man 2 does nothing of the sort. You know how in most superhero franchises, especially things like Spider Man or Batman, the hero is just off doing his thing fighting purse snatchers or rescuing kittens, until the Big Bad Villain shows up, and then everything stops just for him? Like, there must be whole cities full of drug dealers, tax deadbeats, etc., just waiting for a Joker or a Green Goblin to show up, if only to take the focus off their crime? Yeah, Iron Man 2 does nothing like that. ‘Spergie McCritic might tell you Iron Man 2 is cluttered, that there’s too much going on, but really, that’s total BS. Iron Man 2 is great precisely because there’s more going on than Good Guy in Robot fights Bad Guy in Robot. You want that tripe, I hear Transformers 2: Revenge of Megan Fox’s Chest is out on DVD. Enjoy that and stay home.
While we’re at it, let’s look closer at origin stories. Green Goblin is a Rich Dude who risks life and limb, or, at the least, cancer, to prove his company’s supergoo works by injecting himself. Okay, fine, it made sense within the movie’s logic, which is a step in the right direction, but seriously? In the real world, OzCorp’s CEO would have just contracted with the US military and had all the test subjects who Just Needed College Money they could ever want. And even if the results were disastrous, as they ultimately proved to be, they’d just write it off in the defense budget and stick the taxpayer with the bill.
The Joker’s approach of being nuts without a reason works for him, I don’t really care if there’s a Joker backstory, but how about Liam Neeson in Batman Begins? Sure, Ducard was smart and all of that, but in that “I’m going to kill everyone and here’s why it’s okay, according to my stupid hypothetical arguments that couldn’t pass muster in a high school debate class” way.
On the other hand, Mickey Rourke’s Whiplash is the most realistically conceived villain in recent superhero film history. After the events of Iron Man, Tony Stark becomes this huge rock star, bigger than Obama, bigger than Jesus. Meanwhile, you’re rotting away in some one bedroom flophouse in the Russian version of Section 8, doing hospice duty for your dying, broke father; because Stark’s daddy only put his name on something your Pa helped him create? Hell yes, I’d be ready to become an electric Kratos, too.
(Also, I don’t know if there’s some sort of an analogy here to Tarantino screwing Avary for the Pulp Fiction writing credit, but since all the Internet Apple Cultists are having their day in the sun comparing Stark’s opening speech at the Stark Expo with their Turtleneck Jesus Steve Jobs, screw it, I’m going to have my fun and make dumb associations, too!)
Another great thing about Whiplash is that he’s not a billionaire with a lot of money and a company to front his evil research, he’s not a space alien, he’s not even some escaped mental patient. Whiplash is a mostly logical fellow who’s out to get revenge for his daddy. In some dreadful, horrid stages of American history, that’s enough to make you President! After an initial outburst (who can blame him?), Whiplash makes a deal with a guy who wants to make a fortune off him. There’s no madness, no insanity on display here. Whiplash doesn’t want to conquer the world (at least, it’s not directly alluded to); he just wants his fair share of the royalty checks! Yes, Rourke puts in the required 20 minutes in a robot suit at the end of the movie, but beyond that, he spends most of the movie in the lab, building his army. Tony Stark doesn’t spend 2.5 hours obsessing over one guy, because after the first half hour, up until the last half hour, he thinks the villain is dead! This allows us to have a plot that goes deeper than, well, a comic book. Genius!
Whiplash is just a really smart dude with a legitimate grievance, who struck a deal with a multinational corporation for his own devices, and this is a trend I’d like to see more of: The villain who knows it’s better to have a decent plan and financial backing instead of a gung-ho attitude and/or a mental illness.
Beyond all of this, how about the fact that Iron Man 2 remembers that one of the key ingredients to a good comic film is fun? When a hero is all wrapped up in some sort of self-righteous mode, or worse, self pity, the film suffers greatly. Waaah, a mugger killed my rich parents. Waaah, my uncle died because I was a whiny little twit. Waaah, daddy never loved me and shot me up with gamma rays. In between expanding on Tony’s personal crisis (which, for all his playboy tendencies, he handles in quite the stoic, “man up” fashion), Iron Man 2 at least has the good sense to spend time showing the title character doing things every last one of us would do in his position, up to and including hosting an epic party in the robot suit, smashed to the tit and surrounded by model-quality women.
So ignore the babble and drink up. When the financially necessary Iron Man 3 comes along in two years, we’ll look back on this one as the Empire Strikes Back of the trilogy. And, of course, fear for the outcome of Iron Man 3, which, as Spider Man 3, X3, Superman 3, and Batman Forever have shown us, is absolutely required by the unknowable laws of Space and Time to be a raging pile of dung, just as surely as an apple must fall from the sky.
20 May, 2010 - 21:30 — George Smith
Comments for Iron Man 2 review
Uhhh
10 out of 10 for Iron Man 2?!? It's a fun summer popcorn flick but ranking it as a perfect movie is giving it a bit more credit that it deserves.
OK
So by the logic of this website, Iron Man 2 is a better movie than Stalker, Shadows, The White Ribbon, A Zed and Two Noughts, The Rules of the Game, Lost Highway, Inglourious Basterds, Cleo From 5 to 7, The Seventh Seal, Ugetsu, The Decalogue, Vertigo, JFK, and 8 1/2. A couple of those could be safely called the most important movies ever made.
Two things:
1) I am aware that by cross-checking all this, I've given your site a big traffic boost.
2) Iron Man 2 is a movie for children. It puts a cooking pot on your head and bangs it for you. Pull your head out, leave whatever card got you in here at the door, and stop talking about movies. You have an attitude that is absolutely killing an entire art form. Please stop.
It's the opinion of one
It's the opinion of one reviewer.
We don't demand our writers adhere to a strict scoring system - I would score The Seventh Seal as a perfect ten and I wouldn't even waste 2 hours of my life watching Iron Man 2, but George enjoyed it and his opinion is as valid as mine, plus he expressed his opinions in a typically entertaining manner. I don't see why he should stop writing about films when a) he clearly derives a great deal of pleasure from watching them and b) a number of people, myself included, enjoy reading his reviews.
If you don't follow any
If you don't follow any guidelines for your scoring system, why have it at all? Do you not have editorial control or interest in unifying your reviews? If so, the site might be more cohesive and less like an incoherent assemblage of different writers stuff, ones with totally different degrees of ability, taste, and knowledge. A review site should be a collective of like-minded writers with an audience in mind, not a dumping ground for whatever your friends cook up.
I don't care how much he enjoys reviewing or watching movies. I enjoy eating calamari, but I'm not going to try my hand at salt-water fishing. Competence is for grocery clerks - if you're being creative and trying to share your creativity with other people, you better spend a lot more time self-editing, doing your research, and be generally more prepared before you let other people see what you're doing.
My point is, if this guy thinks Iron Man 2 is as good as movies get (say, a 10/10), he's wrong, wrong, wrong. He's too wrong to be allowed to continue. He has the enthusiasm and potential of a teenager, and do you let teenagers tell you what's good and what isn't? No, you'd better not.
The editorial control
The editorial control element comes in the selection process for new writers. If George Booker and I believe in someone's ability and find their point of view appealing, they get a chance to write for the site. I happen to find the diversity of opinion fascinating and wouldn't trade it for a tightly controlled group that stuck firmly to a party line. I used to have a tight grip on the site's music section, writing pretty much everything myself for the first few years, but things only got interesting when I loosened the reins and realised that we don't all have to agree on everything.
One of the great joys (and pitfalls) of publishing online is that you can do things differently and let people write what they actually think, rather what the editorial team thinks.
Ultimately the readers can make up their own mind. If they think George Smith is out of his mind, they can read another critic on the site - find someone who appeals and follow their work. And if they can't find a critic they enjoy reading on here, they can always look elsewhere. The Internet is a vast resource and no one says you have to get all you reviews from No Ripcord (although it would be nice).
A final point - why on earth should the opinions of teenagers be disregarded? That's just ridiculous...
Diversity of opinion is
Diversity of opinion is fine, I'm talking about diversity of ability, taste, and general experience. Your site has great writers and mediocre ones bumping up against each other, praising blockbuster schlock and challenging works at the same time, regarding classics sometimes like you just found them on the shelf, and other times like you have been following critical consensus for years. There's no flow, no focus, is what I'm saying. Dirty Pretty Things came out like 7 years ago, why are you reviewing it now? What's the goal? Why is it all lumped together like that?
Take a site like The AV Club - it is successful because every writer, while offering something different, and not always being "correct" as I see it, has a close level of ability, knowledge, experience, and tact. And they file their reviews into proper categories, so I can understand their purpose behind covering older movies, which they approach with a strong awareness of time and place. It seems like No Ripcord is taking what it can get, and you should really cut the fat, so to speak.
Back to the point: This George Smith guy isn't a very good writer, first, and not a very good watcher, either. His response to Iron Man 2, wrong or not, is completely knee-jerk and reactionary, more ramble than review. 1,500+ words? Really? If you want to take on Hitchcock and Tarkovsky and Haneke and Renoir, by all means do so, but don't play that game and then publish a bloated, incoherent essay on why Iron Man 2 is a 10/10 and not just a corporate vacuum of noise and pretty lights.
While we're on the subject of movies and teenagers, I watched a lot of great movies in my teenage years, because I felt like it - I can remember renting Rear Window, Blue Velvet, Annie Hall, Apocalypse Now etc. and getting odd looks from the family. Did that mean I knew anything? No. I was learning. That's what those years are for - not teaching. If you ever meet a teenager who knows shit about anything, they're called a "savant", and they're very rare.
J. Skinner - what a
J. Skinner - what a joker.
Imagine having the arrogance to list a few films and claim that "a couple of those could be safely called the most important movies ever made" - and in the same breath mock somebody else for presenting their own opinion on a film they like. Do you not see the inherent hypocrisy in your argument?
No shit
Talk about a slippery slope - I could say you're a hypocrite for denigrating my right to have an opinion of someone else's opinion, couldn't I?
For the last time (I hope) no one is saying he's not allowed to express his opinion. But in relation to the apparent critical philosophy of this website and the fact that Iron Man 2 is an ungainly chunk-of-shit kids movie, that opinion is wrong.
Obviously it's all a matter of personal perspective, but do I have to reiterate that in every sentence with "I think..." or "I alone feel that..."? I assume adults having an internet debate understand that this isn't exactly science, but I'm not going to waste my time qualifying that in every paragraph.
Get it?
I've contradicted myself a
I've contradicted myself a bit. I'll step back from I *think* and say I *wish* this guy would stop talking about movies.
It was never my intent to
It was never my intent to directly compare Iron Man 2 head to head with any of the movies on the list of Most Important Movies Ever Made According To J.Skinner.
What purpose does it serve to require a film like Iron Man 2 to be scored in the shadow of Hitchcock or Allen? In my mind (and I've received no editorial guidance otherwise), the fairest way to score any work is do so on its own merits within its genre.
Mr. Skinner can turn down the flamethrowers (or not, it's just Internet, so whatever), as it was never my intention to say Iron Man 2 was a better film than his Sacred Cows. Is Iron Man 2 "As Good As (any and all) Movies Get?" Will future generations name drop Favreau in an attempt to establish that Their Subjective Internet Opinion is better than Your Subjective Internet Opinion? Probably not so much.
But within the genre of big budget blockbusters, and especially within the the smaller category of big budget blockbusters based on comic books, yes, I am asserting that Iron Man 2 is pretty much as good as it gets, and thus, the 10.
The scoring issue is one that affects a wide variety of review outlets reviewing a wide variety of things, from film to music to video games to consumer products. Different scores mean different things to different people. One person will take a score of 5 to mean a film is strictly average. Another person will take the 5 to mean that a film is an absolute piece of trash, not fit for viewing by human eyes. Booker has a similar theory on the 7 as a crutch for reviewers who can't quite make up their minds.
I gave Iron Man a 10 (and the accompanying gushing review) because it was full of great actors having a great time playing these roles, and that fun translated into my having a hell of a time as a viewer. The story, script, acting and dialogue were much stronger than 90% of what the genre puts out. The plot developments made sense and were plausible, within the 85%-similar-to-our-own reality the franchise has eked out. It was nice to see a villain who has a plausible, relatable motivation instead of a gimmick, can actually employ logic to make prudent decisions, and for whom time doesn't stand still for 2 hours until he is bested.
It would be easy to take offense at J. Skinner's comments, but that wouldn't be sporting, because I certainly took some potshots of my own at critics who don't like Iron Man 2.
Still, my comments are very much over the top, and they are intentionally written to come across that way. Compare my description of the grossly exaggerated (for comedic effect) Internet Armchair Critic with Mr. Skinner's serious assertions that I'm somehow:
- A bad writer
- A writer of bloated, incoherent essays
- More of a rambler than a reviewer
- A bad watcher
- A teenager
- Too wrong to continue writing about films
- Unprepared to write about films
- Helping to kill an art form with my attitude
That's eight, and there's probably more buried in his comments, but I can't help but think that wow, that's a high number of serious ad hominem attacks for a guy who is, ostensibly, secure in his beyond reproach ideas of what a review site/writer "should" and "shouldn't" be.
A cursory look at what I've covered for No Ripcord reveals mostly work I imagine Mr. Skinner wouldn't waste his time watching, and that's fine, just as I won't waste my time getting bogged down in an Asian land war with a guy who finds "wrote a few pages on how much he liked Iron Man 2" to be something worth revoking the unpaid internet film critic decoder ring for.
For now on, I will ensure that each piece I write is formatted to AP standards. A thesaurus will be employed at least 5 times per paragraph. I will endeavor to write prim, proper reviews that border on technical documents, which would be publishable in a Serious Academic Journal of Film Study, or as a master's thesis.
Actually, there's very little chance of that happening. Opposite day!
The fairest way to score any
The fairest way to score any work is not to judge its merits within its genre, but within every other kind of movie. You seem to be suggesting that one genre - I guess comic book movies, in this case - is automatically not to be judged with the same standards as anything else. I don't agree with that. That kind of thinking isn't going to encourage anyone, and the best examples of the genre - like The Dark Knight, possibly - would ideally show its creators measuring themselves up against Great American Movies, like The Godfather or Taxi Driver or whatever those folks took as inspiration. The best (10 scores) examples of a genre transcend it, they don't just passably improve on it.
If you consider the movies I listed earlier as "Serious/Academic" and dismiss them in any way because of that, then you don't know what you're talking about. They provide the exact same entertainment and artistic value as a blockbuster like Iron Man 2, and if you don't think so, you either haven't seen them or you don't know what you're looking at when you sit in a theater. If all you want out of something is crude satisfaction and automatic stimulus, then you have no business trying to talk about it, which is the point I've been making this whole time. I like McDonalds more than vegetable soup, so I'm not going to go out and write a cookbook. You dig? I guess that's why the internet is so tempting and so awful sometimes.
I don't consider this an "Asian land war" whatever that is. I'm simply using your site's comment function to shake the cage. If you don't want that, or look down upon those who use it against you, I'd suggest you disable it.
But.. it was boring.
But.. it was boring.
J Skinner
Give it up man. If you have such a problem with it don't go to the site anymore. They rate and review things their way and if you don't like it then don't read it. From how you've been talking your opinion is the only one that matters it would seem and tennagers are worthless. Everyone has an opinion no matter who they are or what age they are or from what country they are from and all of their opinions matter, not just yours.
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